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Christianeese

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A friend of mine (who doesn’t go to church) was talking to me the other day about Christianeese. Christianeese is the special language that Christians speak that is a combination of biblical references, old church words, and King James English. Sometimes it is very difficult to realize that most of the world no longer speaks Christianeese and can be very confused by it.

This friend was not raised in the church and has very little use for it today and isn’t sure if she believes in God. So for her, these Christianeese words and phrases can sound utterly ridiculous.

For example, she was in a marriage & family class at her college (non-religious school) and a boy in her class was asked how he made his marriage work. This boy (who I would guess is a Christian) responded “I try to love my wife like Christ loves the Church”.

Although any person who has gone to church knows what this means, my friend had absoulutly no clue and thought the guy was crazy. To her, this means that you should love your spouse as much as Christ loves church services. That really is laughable except that it is so sad. This boy really solidified my friend’s idea that all Christians are stupid and I would like to publicly thank him (wherever he is) for helping my friend take a couple more steps away from knowing Jesus.

As Christians, we should be careful what words and bits of wisdom that we share with the world. As Jesus said, we should not throw our pearls of wisdom to people who are not Spiritual enough to receive them. This is why we should share the Gospel with the world but keep doctrine to ourselves. Doctrine is for the Church only and our words should stay “in house”. It is important that we be able to speak the language of the culture when we are among them and leave the Christianeese to ourselves.

This boys real problem is that he was trying to preach doctrine to a group that needed the Gospel preached to them instead. It would have been quite adequate for him to say “I try to love my wife” and leave it at that. A marriage & family class is not the appropriate place to preach the Gospel anyway.

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Written by freeinchrist

January 13, 2010 at 8:00 am

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  1. I would like to thank that guy too. It would be nice if more of the brainwashed masses could push the non-brainwashed away. 🙂

    zebulonthered

    January 13, 2010 at 7:23 pm

  2. It seems that some don’t realize the separation between Christians and non-Christians in this country.

    freeinchrist

    January 14, 2010 at 12:43 am

  3. I’m not sure I follow…

    zebulonthered

    January 14, 2010 at 6:34 pm

  4. I was just saying that people don’t realize that non-Christians in this culture no longer understand words that used to be common because they were used in the church and more people went to church. That’s all.

    freeinchrist

    January 15, 2010 at 6:44 am

  5. I think that it is the Secularist way of making fun of Christians.I think that the media is partly responsible for the the name calling of Christians.When we say that we don’t support Abortion,the media refers to us as extremist.

    mike42lan

    January 24, 2010 at 7:01 pm

  6. mike42lan,

    I would tend to agree but should we really be trying to convince the world to stop having abortions even if they never become Christians or should we preach Christ to the world and then teach against abortion to the Church? In the post, I was trying to say that I think we should limit our communication to the world to the gospel message and teach doctrines (like that of being against abortion) to the Church only. This is because the things of the Spirit (like the sanctity of human life) can only be discerned by those who have the Spirit. When we teach against abortion to non-Christians, they do not have the Spirit by which to Spiritually discern the will of God. My basic point was just gospel and then doctrine. Thanks for the comment.

    freeinchrist

    January 25, 2010 at 7:36 am

  7. freeinchrist – “This is because the things of the Spirit (like the sanctity of human life) can only be discerned by those who have the Spirit.”

    Are you for real? You think that only Christians believe in the sanctity of human life? Think again. I’m not a Christian. I am pretty sure god doesn’t exist, and I am positive the Spirit doesn’t and I believe in the sanctity of human life. I believe in the sanctity of all life. You are mistaken if you believe that Christians have a monopoly on morals becuase they have an old book to tell then what to think and how to behave.

    zebulonthered

    January 25, 2010 at 2:44 pm

  8. I appreciate your comments but I have to ask “why do you read this blog if you are not a Christian?” I’m not sure how it could benefit you.

    I do stick with my statement. I’m sure that you have a certain respect for human life but you could not have the same sanctity (the word ‘sanctity’ coming from the Latin ‘sanctus’ meaning “holy”) that a person who believes in God has. You cannot believe that a human is holy if you don’t believe there is a God to set us apart as holy. It is a logical inconsistency. If we are holy but there is no God then we have to set things apart as holy ourselves which is entirely subjective. If we do this then how do we decide what is holy and what isn’t (your point is that you believe in the holiness of all things but really you are judging that for yourself). Are humans holy? All of them? Even the evil ones?

    You said you believe in the sanctity of all life. Would you kill a cricket in your house on purpose? If so, you are saying that it isn’t holy and you don’t believe in its sanctity (holiness). What about other animals? Are they holy? I don’t think so because I believe in God and I believe we were made in the image of God and this qualifies humans as holy and the reason that animals are not holy (sanctified). Since you don’t believe these things, you have no basis (besides your own subjectivity) to base your belief on. I’m not buying it.

    I appreciate that you would read this blog even as an unbeliever. I hope I didn’t come off as rude in my response. Thanks for the comment.

    freeinchrist

    January 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm

  9. I can’t believe there are really people out there like you. Don’t worry you didn’t “come off as rude”, just self-righteous and egotistical. I didn’t realize this was a Christian only blog. Maybe you should put up a sign. 😉
    When you say I “have a certain respect for human life but you could not have the same sanctity that a person who believes in God has.” You are saying that because I don’t believe in the same fairy-tails as you I am somehow less human than you. That I am by default less moral than you. Belief in god does not make you good person, being a good person does. Non-belief in god does not make you a bad person, being a bad person does. My father-in-law is a bible believing Christan. He is also a child molester. Does his belief in god make him moral? I don’t see how. You say I can’t believe in the sanctity of human life because that belief comes from god… Have you read the old testament? Anyway if you will look in your thesaurus you will find the word inviolability next to sanctity. The definition for inviolable is “not to be violated or profaned.” This would be a good word to describe how I feel about all life. You asked “Would you kill a cricket in your house on purpose?” The answer to that is no. I do not kill anything without cause. I an a vegetarian. I think we, as humans, have done and are continuing to do some very bad things to the rest of the life on this planet. When I say all life is inviolable, I mean it.
    You say I “have no basis (besides your own subjectivity) to base your belief on.” I wonder if you can explain all the violence and death dealt out by “men of god” over the years? I’m not saying that atheists never do “evil” in the world. Just that Christians do as much. Is it OK to kill if god says to do it?Morality is a personal thing. It can’t be handed down form on high. If you are a good person or a bad one, it has nothing to do with your beliefs

    zebulonthered

    January 26, 2010 at 4:05 am

  10. I am not saying that you are “less human” than I am, actually I am saying the opposite. It is because you are human that you are holy and you are holy because there is a God to make you holy.

    I do not know you to know how moral you are but I would have to ask: On what do you base your morality if not in God?

    “belief in God does not make you a good person…” — I would agree. I definetly did not intend to say that Christians are always better than non-Christians just because they are Christians. Just because people don’t listen to the Spirit and Scripture does not mean that these things are thus invalidated. Many people have done terrible things in the name of Christ but that doesn’t mean that He approves of them.

    “My father-in-law is a bible believing Christan. He is also a child molester. Does his belief in god make him moral?” — I’m sorry to hear that and it certainly does not make him moral. However, you should not judge the system based on a single member of it (or any number of members). Even if Christians are evil, it doesn’t invalidate the Bible or the Spirit. The Bible must be judged on what it reveals and God on who He is. He wants us to be better than we are.

    “I do not kill anything without cause” — What is cause? Who decides? I bet its you. There are many people who I wouldn’t want to determine just cause for taking a life. I will stick with letting God choose what is holy and what isn’t.

    “Is it OK to kill if god says to do it?” — Yes and that is the only reason it is ok. It may seem wrong but this is the only way that we can have any consistency in this world. If each person decides to kill with his/her own judgement, that would be chaos and there would be no standard to determine which killings were justified and which were not. You also said “morality is a personal thing” and frankly that scares the hell out of me. If each person determines morality for themselves, they will choose based on their selfish interests and not the interests of others. Not exactly the world that I want to live in. You?

    “If you are good person or a bad one, it has nothing to do with your beliefs” — I would beg to differ. You just said that morality was a “personal thing” and your beliefs will have a lot to do with the moral decisions you make. They do for all of us. If this is not true, than how does one become a good person or a bad person? Is it by birth? Environment? I don’t get it.

    freeinchrist

    January 26, 2010 at 5:05 pm


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